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Eavesdropping on the Past:
a sampling of usenet transmissions 1993-2004

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From: William E. Fantegrossi
Subject: scissor girls (chicago)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Date: 1993-03-31 17:09:48 PST

just saw them play at the peace center in D.C. with cupid car club (including ian and steve of nation of ulysses fame), pitchman, and slant 6 . . . the scissor girls were fukin rad . . . i got their tape and it's neat . . . do they have anything else out on comps or whatever?


From: Eric Daniel Barry
Subject: Re: NO WAVE
Newsgroups: alt.noise
Date: 1996/06/27

My favorite current no-wave band is Scissor Girls, especially their two 7"s, New Tactical Plan Sec. I + II. Haven't heard the new one on Atavistic yet. The first lp and 7" are good, but not as out there as New Tactical Plan.


From: Ben McOsker
Subject: New Scissor Girls 10" on Load Records
Newsgroups: alt.noise
Date: 1996/07/07

Load Records has just releases a new 10" by the Scissor Girls and I think the production on this record is just as brilliantly scrambled as the Sec I and II 7"'s they released. Also the band is playing the MacIntosh festival in NYC around the July 19th date as well as Providence RI where I am from. The ' So that you can start to se
S-T-A-T-I-C-L-A-N-D' 10" is availible direct from Load records for $7.50 to P.O. Box 35 Providence RI 02901. I also have a Six Finger Satellite 12" out now.


From: Eric Daniel Barry
Subject: Re: warton tiers' new record
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth
Date: 1996/08/21

I saw Monsieur Tiers and his guitar orchestra about a month ago at the Atavistic Records night of Macintosh Music Fest. I was there for Scissor Girls, who continue to absolutely rule (check out New Tactical Plan Sec. I + II, two 7"s packaged in ziploc bags).

Tiers, to me, was an absolute wankfest. I dig Branca etc. but this was like 4 guitars and one or two basses and drums going absolutely nowhere, mired in old man prog rock structures. My friends and i were calling it Wharton Tiers' Phalanx of Wank. This was, seriously, one of the most boring sets i've ever seen.

I was disappointed because I know Tiers' pedrigree, producing great records by SY, Born Against, Helmet, Unrest etc. And playing with Rhys Chatham back in the day and all. But I could not handle his band.

Point: buy the Scissor Girls post-Fall/post-No Wave explosion, and forget Wharton Tiers as a performer.


From: Peter A. Lopez
Subject: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female
Date: 1996/09/12

anyone have the address to, if it exists, the fan club of this band?

any info on them would be appreciated.


From: Steve Lewandowski
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female, alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/09/22

The scissor girls have a fan club? I seriously doubt it...

Yeah, I'd like to now a little more about them myself. I know they put
something new out during the summer on atavistic I believe.


From: the passenger
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female, alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/09/23

I'll tell you...I had the misfortune of playing a show with them in Madison, WI, and I've never seen such incompetence displayed by any "band." There is, contrary to some beliefs, some value in the ability to play one's instrument...and to write songs...


From: Steve Silverstein
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female, alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/09/23

Scissor Girls discography, as far as I recall. First 7". First LP (_From the Scissor Girls To the Imaginary Layer..._). Recorded album, not released for awhile. Changed guitarists (Kelly Kuvo joined). Released two 7"s in _New Tactical Outline_ series. Album with old guitarist finally came out on Atavistic, _We People Space with Phantoms_. 10" on Load _...So You Can Start to See What S-T-A-T-I-C-L-A-N-D Will Look Like_. Last-ever show (because Kelly is moving to New York). Finishing final album for Atavistic before Kelly leaves. Singles comp likely to come out, label uncertain. Bassist/vocalist Azita Youssefi has a solo album out under the name "AZ", _Music for Scattered Brains_.

That aside, if you haven't heard the Scissor Girls, they combined some obvious "no wave" influences that are much talked about (DNA being among the more prominent) with more "rock" aspects, such as the Fall. Synthesizers played more prominently in their recordings than their live shows. Live they were an incredibly unpredictable band, with a wide variety of guests on different instruments. Strange stage costumes only added to the weirdness. Musically, by the end, it amazed me how they could hold together such jarring and fragmented chaos into really coherent and moving music. In an era when both "no wave" and "girl bands" seem like cool buzz-words, the Scissor Girls had obvious elements of both (they were all-female), without falling into either as a pigeonhole or a limitation. They were probably the most original and compelling band in Chicago in a long time, and I, for one, am saddened by their end.


From: Steve Lewandowski
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female, alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/09/28

I've had a friend go on and on about them for the last few months and from what you just described of them, I'd love them! I didn't know they were a "girl" band to be honest! Wow, I love it when bands like that defy expectations. It's a shame I didn't know about them earlier and maybe got a chance to see them live. But I doubt they ever got to atlanta on a tour. I guess it's better to break up a band too soon then to die a slow and painful death like many bands recently...


From: the Passenger
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female, alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/09/29

Well, I still say that the fact that they broke up is a blessing. There is something to be said for musical competence, kids...


From: Steve Silverstein
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female, alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/10/02

I personally thought Heather was one of the most original and incredibly talented drummers I've ever seen. To be able to hold a completely steady, rock-solid beat, regardless of what is going on around you, is a talent few other musicians I've ever seen can master. Azita wrote bass lines that were, for all of their destructo tendencies, really intricate and complex. And I still have no clue of how Kelly could even keep track of her parts, and yet she was able to duplicate them every night. Sure, I can see where some could find their music hard to follow, and I'm not trying to convince you that you should listen to them if you don't want to put forth the effort to comprehend it. But anyone who saw the Scissor Girls in the last year or so and found them inept is not just apathetic, but flat-out wrong. Period. To me, musical competence is defined, in part, by the ability to repeatedly play a part which someone else could not easily duplicate. If they learned to play in a style that you can't stand, that's fine, and you're entitled to such an opinion. At the same time, defining the results as inept is completely hard-headed and reactionary. Thankfully, 15 years later, bands ranging from the Fall to Chrome to the Contortions are finally being accepted for broadening the way we think about music. Unfortunately, some folks are just too closed-minded and dismissive to accept such innovations, even in the face of just being wrong. I'm not arguing that anyone has to like or listen to the Scissor Girls, but to deny their talent, regardless of what you think of them, is the wimpiest excuse in the book. Explaining why you do or don't like a particular band is obviously not easy, but there's certainly no need to resort to name calling to justify your taste. If you don't like the Scissor Girls, fine, we disagree. Just don't rationalize your opinion.


From: Chuck
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female, alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/09/24

The Atavistic CD is actually quite old but was just released this summer.
There's also a really good 10 inch they just released called STATICLAND that is on..oh I don't remember what label it is.
Oh, and also they just broke up. Their last show was a couple weeks ago at the Lounge Ax here in Chicago.


From: John Dunlevy
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female, alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/09/25

They've also got tracks on two fine compilation CDs:

"New Tactical Plan" appears on the _Dig This!_ Doorika Theater benefit compilation, which came out on the Sweet Pea label. It's a different version of a song that I beleive was previously available on a TSG label 7", originally called "New Tactical Outline."

"By Process of E-limination" appears on the _100 Watts_ WHPK-FM compilation, which is out on Atavistic, and in which I have a considerable vested interest. This track is a live recording from WHPK's weekly live rock show.


From: k-cub
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female, alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/09/25

say, they're also on the go-in-the-dark 7" comp or did someone say that already?


From: curfew
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative.female, alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/10/01

> Well, I still say that the fact that they broke up is a blessing. There is something
> to be said for musical competence, kids...

aw, gee, thanks dad, us silly kids were just confused when we thought that we *liked* the scissor girls. thanks for setting us straight.


From: Mike Lattis
Subject: SG Research efforts dissolved?
Newsgroups: alt.music.independent
Date: 1996/12/04

Forgive my uninformed query (news travels slow when it travels at all here in Delaware), but perhaps one would be so kind as to shed some light upon the apparent disintegration of the beloved Scissor Girls? How long ago--months? weeks? I witnessed their live show in July--they were very much together.

Any news on what projects, if any, the former members will take on? Drummer, Heather, shall continue with Lake of Dracula, right? What about singer, azita, or banjo maven, miss Kuvo? Any information will be gleefully embraced.

The institution will be missed, for the rationality problem still exists. There is still contradiction, and their are still vamps and
venomous fiends roaming, burrowing, LEARNING! --getting closer-- There is still more to learn. There is ever so much to learn...

Help me. Inform me. please


From: Carla Trejo-Springer
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/04

Yes, indeed the Scissor Girls have called it quits, Mrs. Kelly K has moved on to New York, AZ is 'working on a new project' and Heather is playing around town with Lake of Dracula, along with Al from Shorty/US Maple and someone else, look fer something from LoD on Skin Graft soon.

The, for the most part, complete Scissor Girls discography, as of now..
AZ "music for scattered brains' LP (AZ solo) (SG Research 001)
Scissor Girls "No Darling Pets" 7 inch (Monkeytech)
Scissor Girls "To:Imaginary Layer on Skeletons..." LP (Quinnah)
Scissor Girls "New Tactical Ouline I" 7 inch (SG Research 002)
Scissor Girls "New Tactical Outline II" 7 inch (SG Research 003)
Dot Dot Dot "The Dot Dot Dot Story" LP (Feat. Kelly Kuvo) (Turkey)
Scissor Girls "We People Space with Phantoms" LP (Atavistic)
Scissor Girls "S-T-A-T-I-C-L-A-N-D" 10 inch (Load Records)

I know they appeared on a now out of print 7 inch comp on Simple Machines along with Slant 6 awhile back, and they have a track on this flexi disk that came with this magazine called 'Rocktober' also. They have a live track on this CD a magazine called 'Lumpen Times' put out, and also one on some kind of benifit comp that had the Coctails on it as well. Hope I was of some help, check out my web page, we have some stuff you may like if you are a SG fan.


From: Philip von Zweck
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/04

If your spaeking of "chicken Bomb" it was put out by the lumpins but the cocktails aren't on it.


From: Carla Trejo-Springer
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/04

No, there is another comp., I totally forget what it was, it had a bunch of live stuff from local bands, the last song was a really long Coctails song, maybe something WNUR put out, maybe. It was like, last year...


From: Philip von Zweck
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/09

ohhhh..._ 100 Watts_ It's all live stuff from WHPK. Atavistic put it out. you are right.


From: Carla or/and Jonah
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/10

Ah Ha! Told ya! :)
They also have a song on the 2nd 60 second comp. 7 inch.


From: Mike zimbouski
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/06

Does anyone have any addresses for any of these labels?


From: Carla Trejo-Springer
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/07

SG Research: PO 476748 Chicago, Il. 60647
Monkeytech: 2265 West St. Paul Chicago, Il. 60647
Quinnah: PO 14745 Chicago, Il. 60614


From: Mike Lattis
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/08

Add to that discography:

"We People Space With Phantoms" (Atavistic Records)
-released in 4/96, but recorded sometime in '94
"Staticland" (10" on Load Records)
-3/96, I believe

Write to:

Atavistic Records at--P.O.Box 578266/Chicago, IL 60657
-they have an email address which is lying around here somewhere...
(I'll find it and send it later)
SG Research at--P.O.Box 476748/Chicago, IL 60647

As for the Monkeytech and Load releases, I have them, but not here in my dorm, so I am not able to look up the addresses.

Anybody have Azita's solo record? I know nothing about it other than that it exists. Also, do Lake of Dracula (drummer from SG, plus Weasel Walter and ex-couch vocalizer) have any recordings lying around?


From: Carla Trejo-Springer
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/08

Those releases were listed as part of my original posting....
AZ's solo record is just her with a synthisizer, going crazy...
a LoD 7 inch soon on Skin Graft, I hear.


From: Mike Lattis
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/10

Didn't see it. Heartfelt apologies...

and many thanks for the information re: AZ/Lake of Dracula.


From: Douglas Wolk
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/12

To: The Imaginary Layer On Skeletons is also available as a CD on The Making Of Americans.

Email me if you want more info. Thanks.


From: wretched, oh wretched
Subject: Re: Scissor Girls Research discontinued?
Newsgroups: alt.music.sonic-youth, alt.music.independent, alt.punk, alt.fan.devo, alt.music.riot-grrl
Date: 1996/12/12

write SG Research at:
POB 476748
Chicago, IL 60647

julie. (who got the address from her tattered and sun-melted NTOI 7")


From: Crazy Bob
Subject: Re: u.s. maple?
Newsgroups: alt.music.independent
Date: 1997/01/27

In article <5ch3cc$5ai@freenet-news.carleton.ca>,
cc196@FreeNet.Carleton.CA attempts to speak coherently...
>
>
>hi, can someone tell me what this band sounds like? they are playing in town on >tuesday and i'm just wondering if i should go check them out or not.

Skin Graft boys... it's hard to describe their sound, if I knew the Scissor Girls better then I'd be able to relate with more authority what I've heard about them sounding similar. However, they're pretty noisy and very atonal and they've been known to execute random time-signature changes.


From: MinnaUnchi
Subject: anyone wanna be on a comp.? (noise bands) plus new Bal Bas Bow Releases
Newsgroups: alt.music.independent
Date: 1997/10/22

BBB011: Gigantis Lobe "the largest fumagation ever!" cassette $3
15 songs from our best friends and some of their friends. Garbage can and bucket drums, skreetchy guitar, uncomprehensable vocals plus a whole mess of other beeps, blips and bleeps. Listening to the 'Lobe has been descibed as a little like watching Doo Rag go down on the Boredoms in Kraftwerk's bathroom while the Scissor Girls look on in delight. Comes with a free pair of ear plugs, really, it does.


From: John Butler
Subject: Aube
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: 1998/01/23

If you like the sillier side of Nurse With Wound, do check out Azita's _Music_For_Scattered_Brains_ CD. Track 8 is especially cool. I just picked this one up today. Azita is a former member of a group called The Scissor Girls, I think, and if anyone knows where I can find more info about them online, I'd appreciate it.

May you all live in noisy times.


From: pl1x@earthlink.net
Subject: Scissor Girls
Newsgroups: alt.music.no-wave
Date: 2000/04/23

If you have any information about this group and it's members other projects and you have the time to write it down, or send me in the right direction it would be greatly appreciated.


From: Haunted River
Subject: Alternative New Ghost-Fiction FAQ
Newsgroups: alt.books.ghost-fiction
Date: 2004-04-13 13:18:39 PST

4. We don't hear much about THE JESUS & MARY CHAIN anymore; does that mean they were crap and that new bands like THE SCISSOR GIRLS are better?
A: No, definitely not. Don't be too quick to dismiss your earlier judgment.

[Actually, I think he's talking about the SCISSOR SISTERS! -Roger]

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